Monday, April 27, 2009
Toasted buns
Well, April is almost over with and we're starting to see some familiar faces around the lakefront--mostly returning instructors. New applicants are also being given token interviews, and some are appealing their not being hired. One or two have even filed lawsuits against Hoofers. It looks to be another great season on tap! (at least for people whose party buddies happened to be on the hiring committee.)
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Vague allegations, rumors and innuendo. Another par for the course post from the Fleet Commander.
ReplyDeleteThe Board of Captains use private email lists and hold secret meetings to keep club members in the dark.
ReplyDeleteHowever, to shed some light: in one recent appeal Mark Walther, a former big boat instructor who has openly questioned sailing club policies, appealed his non-hiring, so the Board of Captains held a closed meeting to waste him.
Walther produced evidence of good prior evaluations, so the BOC then produced secret files they had collected on Walther, which he had never seen before and were riddled with slanderous half truths irrelevant to his instructing. The club keeps secret files on many people so they can produce "evidence" when necessary, some of it written by former officers who are long gone who had personal grudges against various people. Some of the files on Walther were five years old or more, written by former club leaders who themselves had been removed from their position for abusing club members.
Then Walther was told to leave the room so the BOC could vote in secret, and of course his appeal was denied. He then asked to see those "files", was turned down, so he made a public records request for them. (Walther is not his real name, but if you're on the BOC you know who this is.)
That comic was funny because the questions are so unlike those actually used in the interviews.
ReplyDeleteArrrr! Now we're getting somewheres! Let's hear some details about how they treated Mark Wahlberg. What were these slanderous half truths?
ReplyDeleteYeah, the actual questions they ask are, "why do you think you'd make a good instructor?" and "why do you see yourself as being good at generating enthusiasm" and "why do you want to become a member of the hoofer team". Creepy, manipulative stuff designed by a psychology dropout. Nothing objective, nothing at all to do with sailing. They don't even care if you're a good sailor.
ReplyDeleteOh man, that's so crazy! Those questions are the kind of crap you'd expect to get in a job interview!
ReplyDelete"Yeah, the actual questions they ask are [...]They don't even care if you're a good sailor."
ReplyDeleteHmm. Ratings database? Check.
Sailing test? Check.
Previous knowledge of sailing ability? Check.
Sounds like they already know about the sailing skill of the applications. Logically they'd want to find out about their personality and how they'd represent the club during the interview.
Obviously the inference here is since they don't ask about it they neither care nor know about it from other sources. More baseless innuendo IMHO.
This is a sailing club. Yes there is focus on sailing, but also on the world "club". Lets look at the definition that most fits the situation:
(http://www.thefreedictionary.com/club: 4. A group of people organized for a common purpose, especially a group that meets regularly)
A group of people, so social interactions. So logically sailing and social interactions would be appropriate to consider when hiring someone as a sailing instructor for a club.
"Ratings database? Check.
ReplyDeleteSailing test? Check.
Previous knowledge of sailing ability? Check."
Ahh, if only Hoofers actually worked like that. Unfortunately (for most club members), ratings have a tendency to mysteriously disappear from the database.
As for the "Sailing test" you apparently have never dealt with yourself, it is supposed to weed out people who's basic sailing knowledge is lacking. However, when popular guys don't pass the exam, it gets tossed and they're hired anyway. It's a scam.
As for "Previous knowledge...", do you mean the rumors and hearsay that are circulated on the private instructor email list? Not very objective either, to say the least.
The whole hiring process is a scam.
"However, when popular guys don't pass the exam, it gets tossed and they're hired anyway. It's a scam."
ReplyDeleteName some names, chicken.
Probably your name, Mr. "Anonymous".
ReplyDeleteHow about some real names?
ReplyDeleteThe problem with names is that the people who failed the exam, then got hired anyway, might complain when their names appear here. So, we are reluctant to post them until all 2009 application records have been provided, as requested from Hoofer leaders. Of course, they don't want to provide those records and have even asked a UW attorney to help prevent their release. Par for the course.
ReplyDelete"The problem with names is that the people who failed the exam, then got hired anyway, might complain when their names appear here."
ReplyDeleteThis is a chicken reason not to reveal names. Are you really worried about people -complaining-?! I can only imagine that the author of this webpage is the sort who gets the vapors at the mere thought of somebody saying something mean.
Stop being a chicken. Name names or it never happened.
Just curious... has any Club leader, past or present, been convicted of a crime with regards to activities in the Club?
ReplyDeleteProbably, but even if no one has, it doesn't mean no crimes have been committed by club leaders. After all, UWPD are friends with Union and Hoofer staff. In many cases, people who haven't committed crimes were convicted because the police weren't their friends, e.g.:
ReplyDeletenews.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2649125.stm
If the legal system can screw up so completely with the most serious of offenses, imagine how random it is when it comes to the petty crooks in Hoofers.
Just because some people repeat the same bullshit innuendo under over and over, it doesn't mean there's any truth behind it.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_mccarthy
If people had a legitimate whistle to blow, imagine how sad it would be if they discredited themselves by spouting baseless crap.
So if you had the names of the people who got hired despite having flunked the exam, what would you do? Would you march into the next BOC meeting and demand that they be fired? Oh wait, they all have friends on the hiring committee/BOC! Doh.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't matter anyway, the exam itself is a joke. They know who's exam they are grading when they grade it. Ask any professor and he'll tell you that's inappropriate.
The whole process is designed to provide opportunities and excuses to not hire people that someone doesn't like.